EP442 – Little Contributor, Big Community: Navigating the WordPress Landscape

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Speakers:
Sé Reed: 40.40%
Jason Cosper: 22.18%
Courtney Robertson: 37.42%
Sé Reed:[00:00:00]
5,
Jason Cosper:[00:00:09]
442 of WPwatercooler, little contributor, big community
Sé Reed:[00:00:17]
That’s everything. We have all the answers. Oh, I’m say Reed and I’m first today I am at, say, Reed on all the things, listening on Twitter, but not posting.
Y’all know who it is, it’s your boy Jason Cosper, AK Fat Mic. Back at it again on the world’s most influential WordPress podcast. And speaking of podcasts, check us out on Apple
Courtney Robertson:[00:00:52]
Am I still a guest at this point? I’m unclear if I’m still a guest.
I think you’re technically still
Sé Reed:[00:00:59]
spec. Whoa. You’re I think you’re more like a series regular.
I think
Sé Reed:[00:01:04]
that make you like I’m gonna try to think of a Seinfeld correlation.
A featured player. I wouldn’t call her a banga, but sh and then Newman, that, that’s also. Not a great Seinfeld analogy, but definitely
No soup for you.
Sé Reed:[00:01:20]
not Newman.
There we go. Hi, I’m Courtney Robertson. You can find me@courtneyr.dev around the WordPress training team at a work camp near you and all those things. Good to be here again, friends.
Wonderful. And it’s great to have you Courtney say, so you proposed this topic today. I’d love it if you could give us a little little background on this. Oh, no. Just start spinning spinning.
she does. So I will vamp for just a minute, folks, if you haven’t tuned in yet, to check out the big picture goals as they’re outlined from Jfa recently on make network press.org/project. That’s a lot of what we’re going to be looking through for today. In it, she shares a lot of the priorities as we’re looking ahead into 2023.
Oh or computer difficulty. She has been, she’s had this long suffering DesktopServer computer that she desperately needs to upgrade and just has not yet. But knowing, say, she’ll probably buy a brand new one and it’ll sit next to her desk for a few months before she actually plugs it in.
yeah.
Hey, look at that. Say is
Sé Reed:[00:02:54]
Oh, look at that The internet continues to not work for me.
So I briefly introduced that we would be looking through this post today. I’ll let you take it from
Sé Reed:[00:03:06]
Yep.
or did you freeze again? Oh, no. The wonders of
I’ve share yes. , Jason, Tucker. Oh, wow. Yes, that is correct. Acher would say that I, had issues quite similar to some that she’s been having lately. And it turns out my internet provider here is Comcast because cables the only available to my house. Chipmunks were eating chipmunks and squirrels were eating the wires from the street into my house.
Yes, absolutely. And we’re trying to keep this ship afloat in his absence. And say’s say’s internet problems are definitely helping keep us on our toes. But so one of the things that we were discussing in the pre-show, and normally we we have this role where we don’t discuss the show before the show, but having.
Sé Reed:[00:05:24]
Good golly. I hope so. It’s
yes, we Can hear you.
Sé Reed:[00:05:32]
Okay. Yeah. So you totally introduced all that. That’s great. My, the way that I was hoping we could look at
Yeah. I Jason here is a link for you at each week I put together a look at all of the, various teams in make, as well as a couple of key
Sé Reed:[00:08:59]
This is what is important
is one spot. And as the week rolls, I publish on Wednesdays to give most of the teams a chance to put their things out for the week. But if anyone has like breaking stuff, they stay. Or Friday I try and get in here and add to it,
Sé Reed:[00:09:17]
just last week. So for
last week
Sé Reed:[00:09:19]
for those of you who are listening, Cosper has been scrolling through this post that Courtney does every week, which is just a collection of sections from
gem at the bottom too for the devs. There is a nice little spot where I try at the very bottom to go look at.
Sé Reed:[00:10:02]
So this is why I say, this is something that you’ve been able to undertake as a sponsored contributor, but this is published on post status. So that is evolved
but a lot of contributors are there too.
Sé Reed:[00:10:29]
Yeah. A lot of contributors where it’s, this it’s like the LinkedIn for WordPress. So LinkedIn, slack for WordPress. And can you tell us a little bit about that collaboration?
Yeah. Corey and I were chatting about Corey Miller who owns Post Status. We were discussing, more content that would help elevate to the rest of the third party ecosystem. Those that are the extenders of WordPress, what’s happening inside of.org and why they should care, what they should be aware of, what they should know about.
Sé Reed:[00:11:34]
Yeah, I feel like this is an out a resource of news that is so valuable because so much is happening in all of these make teams and you really surface it and summarize it and link to it, which is the key third component. So I, anyone who’s looking for. That level of information
Yeah, I usually share it in club and I share it off of all my own social handles, and it goes out off of post status’ social handles as well. So if you’re following any of those in any platform, you’ll find it.
And you said Courtney, that it does make it into W p Bott over on Master on.
. It does. And I also did a pull request to add a couple of sources from around.org to WP Bot recently too.
Sé Reed:[00:12:23]
Yeah,
very neutral
Sé Reed:[00:12:45]
and it you’re just really deliver, you’re summarizing what happened in those teams, and it is so much, but each of those issues, or each of those things tend to be whole conversations that are happening on the make team.
Yeah.
Sé Reed:[00:13:27]
Ooh, spooky, WordPress, supernatural. But in terms of new people or new
Down.
Sé Reed:[00:14:03]
Depending on all those, on those different buckets, pillars. Are they buckets or pillars?
not a tag. I
Sé Reed:[00:14:15]
bucket turned upside down so that it’s like a pillar slash soapbox.
Bill billers pockets.
Sé Reed:[00:14:22]
It’s a pillar. It’s
Just Yeah. bring it
Sé Reed:[00:14:27]
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Oh my gosh, I even just looking at this list, I feel even knowing what’s going on and paying attention when I, as soon as I start looking at this list, I am like, wow, that’s so much. Because the first one is APIs, , it’s just oh, this is a small little, a little topic, just APIs but the font, the fonts, API is a big deal.
It could be. I know that
very likely.
one of Yo’s contributors Ari was handling the the fonts API early on, and that had to get punted a bit. But the idea being that Helping with localizing the fonts onto your website without needing to load lots and lots of them. Google fonts, integrating Google Fonts is violating GDPR in some places and some other concerns.
Sé Reed:[00:15:27]
Yeah. It’s, but I think this is something that’s really important to theme developers specifically. And also
Sure what the interactivity
Sé Reed:[00:16:30]
I think that’s related to the Gutenberg phase three of simultaneous editing. So being users, being able to interact as they do on Yeah, on Google Docs. So I think that’s brand new. And I, I don’t know.
If it I don’t know where it’s happening, but I think it’s an interesting thing in that when you get into especially. Courtney and I both work at hosting providers and the hosting providers that we work at offer anything from a nice managed WordPress experience down to shared hosting that anybody can come along and a few dollars a.
schedule boasts,
Yeah. It’s yeah. Running,
Sé Reed:[00:17:57]
three people are uploading images at the same time and they all get converted to WebP in addition to all of the other things at the same time, what then does the matrix explode?
I, think what we need to do here is really boost the performance team, because that’s a lot of what performance team looks at, is what happens in these various configurations, right? What will happen toward press at a large scale enterprise.
Sé Reed:[00:18:48]
It’s I’m linking it. I’m linking it. Core performance,
Yep.
Sé Reed:[00:18:54]
The last post that they did, because the performance team is new, so the last post they did is
We’re
Sé Reed:[00:19:22]
not getting as much attention as it once was, and so other people are taking up the mantle on mobile and performance. Is that accurate?
I think
Sé Reed:[00:19:53]
Woohoo.
We have been tilting at four years on the WPwatercooler. And to see it actually get some attention. I’d love to see where it ends up going. But just to see where
Sé Reed:[00:20:06]
Where, who manages that What team is would media manager be
core, still core,
Sé Reed:[00:20:13]
Gosh, everything’s on core
everything. So a lot of parts of WordPress that are not and a block editor experience are still core, and we see that we haven’t made a lot of changes to the rest of WordPress outside of The post editor or introducing
Sé Reed:[00:20:53]
The nav block actually has some stuff going and for that you can actually go to the fs. It’s still called fse, even though now we’re, we, it’s just site editor, but FSE Outreach experiment channel in Slack has a lot of great testing calls, again from Anne McCarthy. And they have
I thought the PHP 8.2 compatibility item should probably also go under Ecosystem, or instead under ecosystem, because
Sé Reed:[00:22:45]
Yeah, I agree.
Let’s see. I thought something caught my eye inside. Learning Josepha just edited that right before we in the community section edited that because of some comments that I was exchanging in on this
Sé Reed:[00:23:06]
manager,
Yes yes. She oversees programs inside of wordpress.org on behalf of Automatic. Angela Gin and I first met to talk about trying to get all of the content on.
Sé Reed:[00:23:22]
huge thing you’ve been working on.
It’s interesting that she is saying, continue to ship at the current pace, not set the goal. , all materials should be revised as close as we can to release. So that means to me, like right now training team is working on sorting through, how do we have courses revised for releases? I don’t have a good process for that.
Sé Reed:[00:23:53]
What is the current pace that might be something that’s a little broad in terms of I, I think what I think the intention behind that, and again, in terms of how can people be a part of that. is the Learn team has really been pushing out a lot has really been restructuring and putting out a lot of
I love the.
a, dovetail. I’m sorry to interrupt Courtney, but a dovetail to that and
marketing team made. Several years ago. I
Sé Reed:[00:25:00]
Go marketing team. Go marketing team.
you can see the little marketing team badge there. Yeah, it looks like,
Sé Reed:[00:25:12]
The fact that this require something like that requires like, training videos and that even that process I don’t think has been updated. But like that requires so much
Yeah.
Sé Reed:[00:25:33]
You can get involved if you can find.
About the part with the Let me see. Established contributor and mentor programs. So one of the goals inside the training team will be to have courses available for those that wish to become contributors. That mentor
Sé Reed:[00:26:16]
How that was implemented.
Yeah.
Sé Reed:[00:26:21]
Yeah, how does, how I think the standardization and across the teams of that process will be really interesting. I, I did wanna note before, cuz we’re basically outta time, but I did wanna note one thing that is really important is the continuing upgrade of the design of wordpress.org. Which includes the design of make.wordpress.org, and right now what is happening is the switch from slash support as the place where documentations and forums are to a split where documentation is slash documentation and its own world, and then forums where you can get, ticketed, not ticketed, but.
I’m excited to also see where that playground goes.
Sé Reed:[00:27:47]
Yeah, that’s a whole other episode in itself too. This is like just our outline of episodes for the year, so
And actually to, I know we’re over time, but I’m
Sé Reed:[00:27:56]
Sorry. Chucker.
sorry. To loop back around to the contributor and mentor programs. Just wanna call out. On episode four thirty four we had Joe Binder on to talk about diverse diversity and inclusion and informally there is a mentorship.
Sé Reed:[00:28:15]
Speaker mentorship.
yeah, speaker mentorship. So
for Word camp organizing.
yes.
Sé Reed:[00:28:23]
Yeah.
they have mentors to go in and partner with their. New
Yeah, so I, expansion of this is gonna be great. I think that the existing programs if that’s something that you’re, you’re watching the WPwatercooler for the first time one welcome, but also you hear that and you go. I’d like to get involved. There are already programs out there where you can you can
Sé Reed:[00:28:51]
Yeah, find it, do the log on and and make it a 20, 23 resolution to get involved if you have the bandwidth. And if you don’t, then just tune in and we’ll tell you about it.
and I think that is a great way to end it. So
Sé Reed:[00:29:28]
Ah, happy, contributing.

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