EP25 – Mastodon + On + On – Dev Branch

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Speakers:
Sé Reed: 0.45%
Jason Tucker: 43.55%
Jason Cosper: 56.00%
Sé Reed:[00:00:00]
I heard you were talking about books, so
Jason Tucker:[00:00:08]
This is episode number 25 of Dev Branch Mastodon. On and on.
Jason Cosper:[00:00:27]
That.
see, Reid.
Yeah, she is still having internet issues and y’all know who it is. It’s your boy Jason, Cosper, AK A Fat Mullenwig back at it again on the world’s most influential WordPress podcast.
Speaking of those podcasts, you can listen to us on Apple Podcast, audible, Google, Spotify, all those places, and go hang out with us in our Discord links in the video description down below. Kos, how you doing today?
Doing. Okay. it’s a two-person WPwatercooler today, two-person dev branch today.
Yep. Yep.
Yeah.
Hopefully Sé pops in. That’d be cool to see her.
yeah. And she’s very welcome to join. She’s still having internet issues. It’s, annoying. I think no one is no more annoyed at this than say is. I just. Having such a hard time with it, and, hopefully, hopefully those things get ironed out soon.
We’ll get things figured out.
Absolutely. We always do.
Mastodon, I’ve heard of this thing. . It’s like the, it’s a new upstart. I think they just invented it like a week ago. At least that’s the way people are feeling about it. And and now there’s all these things that you can do with Mastodon and in particular getting your website to actually talk to the thing.
Yeah. when Stina,had me, talk to the W P n YC meet up for, I said, how long do you need me to go? and, she said, as long as you want to go. And,folks had questions and everything else. And, we talked, both about, running your own master on server, which I do. and and like what goes into that, the moderation, everything else, but also, tying your WordPress site into.
Like it’s one of, it’s starting to become one of those generic terms and, rightfully There are people pushing back on it. . there are folks who are just like, Hey, wait a minute. there are a lot, there are a lot more efforts, than just the core, main,mastered on all the mastodon instances that have,been around since, gosh, like 2016.
we were asking Js.
So basically saying Hey, I have posted a post if you wish to ingest this post, here’s how to get it. And then, like broadcasting this stuff out to all of these other,federated instances. it’s a wild, weird thing. A lot of people are trying to like, pin.
You could never, turn around and follow. somebody from, yeah, I, I use this thing called bookworm that’s like a Good Reads alternative, that also is compatible, with the wider fed averse. And, if you wanted, you could go follow, like my reading activity, reviews about books.
Speaking of Bookworms
yeah.
we only had to say it three times, and then she appeared.
Yeah. but it’s just wild to think like you, you can’t follow,a good reads profile from Twitter, from Instagram or anything like that. But thanks to Activity Pub, thanks to the way that these things tie together, you can, you don’t have to be on all of these other social networks to follow.
You don’t have to necessarily like,just turn the Tucker spigot off completely. You can just say okay, let’s tamp it back here. I don’t need to see his blog post. for a little while. and, the nice thing is in Mastodon there’s like mute controls where you can set like, eh, mute indefinitely.
Yeah, no, I, so the i, the main idea here is that because this protocol exists of Activity Pub, we’re able to have this inner system communication through the fed averse. Being able to allow for a photo to show up from pixeled, a video to show up from Pier Tube, a post from whatever. As long as you’re following them with the correct, name, then you’re actually getting that content from that particular destination.
Yeah,
Yep. That’s cool. That’s cool. So how does the WordPress side of it tie into it? what do you do to make that part?
not very well is what my current answer would be.
where you can actually mention someone in, in the post and then when it will actually go and link over to them and it will notify them that they’ve been mentioned using web mentions, which is pretty, pretty handy.
Yeah. And,it’s very cool because, effectively, you can, publish updates from your site and it works almost similarly to,it’s a broadcast channel, but you are sending out updates to folks. and,if you do mention them, if you’re talking about,something that they’re working on, you can actually use, their handle on whatever service they’re using.
So it’s one of these things where, and all of those channel. Can and will get pinged. it’s one of these like very, cool, very I have long been saying that, I want, the internet and I want WordPress specifically to be a little bit more weird, a little bit more experimental.
Yeah, there’s like ping backs and track backs of now you know, the idea that you’re able to. essentially ping somebody that way and have them be notified this, these are technologies that existed in WordPress. It’s just the more modern day version of it, which I’m hoping becomes even a more modern day version of it as we start getting further along into how we, integrate activity pub with, all these other, web mentions and all these other types of technologies that are being built out for it. Okay, so we had Activity pub. that’s your first plugin. That’s the one. You should definitely get that installed and set up.
So would you mention web finger first or note info first as the
yeah. So
info. this is, and you might, another one, by Mathias, who has really, laid a lot of the groundwork for,how all of these things tie together. I could read the description here, but, it’s to, and we are on dev branch, but to like the non-technical, it’s a little impenetrable, but.
Yeah. Speaking of Unix, then you get into webbing, which It’s a whole extra piece there where you’re essentially getting the information of where it is that you’re able to be interacted with. Isn’t that it? It’s how like finger of your on a Unix box would present itself as, here’s all the different places that I can be connected with and what information I’m able to provide, right?
Like what is, what’s the, username, Tucker of the WPwatercooler site on the
WPwatercooler at WPwatercooler dot or, yeah,
Okay. But the second somebody hits that at WPwatercooler, if they just hit that they don’t know where else to go.
right.
Web finger helps as long as the server is aware of it, to say, Hey, there is an at WPwatercooler account here that you might be interested in.
Yeah. It’s using the author URL to determine what,what it is that, that particular user has. So I have a user for w WPwatercooler and I have a user for dev branch. And those two. Have dev branch WPwatercooler dot com and WPwatercooler at WPwatercooler dot com and whenever those authors post something, supposedly this hasn’t happened yet.
Yep.
It’s a little bit different than having an account that you’re posting.
try to play with the, yeah. to break things, to play with the, the cutting edge, stuff. Definitely. Courtney has put me on the spot with the post formats. Damn. yeah.
Yes, absolutely. there is a full, thing, called Posse, which is, what was it? published once, syndicate Everywhere effectively. and, it’s an indie web, thing where effectively, and the idea is at least until,Twitter shuts off their API access next week. rest in peace, Twitter free Twitter api.
It doesn’t necessarily need to go. To,to Mastodon. It doesn’t need to be broadcast out to Pixel Fed if it’s an image post or anything like that. but I, I see, especially since, all. Mastodon is all of these other things are, is they are federated, micro blogging. they are, effectively,one of the things that when everybody started making the push towards Mastodon, back in November.
People are more just here’s this weird thing that I’m interested in. and it may not even be weird. It’s like here’s this perfectly, totally normal thing that I’m interested in, but I’m really fucking passionate about it. I also wish that at some point here, we stop talking about Mastodon on Mastodon, and we actually start talking about the things that we’re doing instead of Mastodon. You know what I mean? We’re like,we’ve gotten to the point where we can just talk about the stuff that’s happening and not have to worry about the plumbing behind it to do all that stuff.
Yeah. And something I also want to mention, I’ll make sure it makes it into the show notes. Courtney had asked if, the W P N Y C meetup, full session is available on YouTube. I think it’s available on YouTube. I know for sure, and I’ll make sure that it makes it into the show notes that it is available on archive.
Perfect
but yeah. and one of the things that I struck on, with this, I know I see, Andy Frain in the chat. I see, I see Courtney in the chat and I feel like I’m on,what is that? anyway,the magic mirror on the wall. Oh, I see. So and and.
Yeah, ice cubes has it.
Yeah, ice cubes, if you’re on iOS, is a very cool app that allows you to, subscribe to like local timelines of other servers that you’re not on. so like I have, there’s a few word press related.
I don’t necessarily have to. , have all these people in my timeline, but I can dip my toe into those streams. And I think that’s the really powerful thing about Mastodon is when you start getting, these communities of people, that start collecting and start, all following a similar vibe and really.
So you can actually see us like, Shows up right over there. So that’s been a lot of fun over,seeing how that works. so yeah, play around with this stuff. If you have stuff, if you have a place that you’re trying to, put things, try the, the Fed way of doing it and seeing if it works well for you.
Yeah, of course.
in the chat, thanks for hanging out as well. Hit the share button. We’d appreciate it. We’d love for people to, find our stuff and, be able to,get involved in our live shows as well as the stuff that we put,online after.

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